Childhood Memories

Today, Donielle and Khrystyna are sharing a bit of nostalgia. We’re talking about childhood memories, funny habits, and the stories that stayed with us. Click “Join the Conversation” and share a funny childhood memory of your own! 

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D            Welcome to coffee and conversation for ESL listening. I'm Donielle. 

K            And I'm Khrystyna. So grab a cup and join the conversation.

D            Hello. Nice to see you as always. I know.

K            Yes. Nice to see you too. It's been a while. I feel like we might have forgotten what we look like to each other.

D            I know. Actually, that's what I said to you when I got on the video with you, and I was like, who are you? Because it's been so, so long and yeah. But we're back, baby.

K            Yes, yes, absolutely. Yes, yes, yes.

D            Lots going on. You know it's tax day. April 15th.

K            Ah, right. Yes. Tax day today. You're right, you're right. Yeah. 

D            Fortunately I had to take care of that earlier. I was kind of forced into resolving all that stuff earlier because I have to send my stuff off to an accountant, but still last minute, actual filing today, you know? It's always fun. And then let's not forget giving the money to the government, which that's no fun, right? Right.

K            Right. Yeah. Well, you know, we usually like to take care of it pretty quickly, like as soon as we get all of the, forms from work and all that stuff. So. 

D            Yeah. Well, you're a lot more organized than I am, as you know.

K            Yeah, well no. Oh yeah. I think it, I think it's my husband, like he usually wants to get it done fast. Like, okay, yeah, let's get this filed so we don't have to wait and then see what's going on after that. 

D            But yeah, that's good. Somebody in the relationship should. You know what I'm saying? We've talked about this before. Like it's really good when you've got a couple and maybe one person is not too worried about stuff. Kind of take it easy and the other one's like, no, we gotta do this. And somewhere in the middle, you organize your life.

K            They're gonna meet. Yeah. Yeah. Which is interesting because if you're talking about that, like I am the person number one, and he's the, the person, number two, he's usually the relaxed one. And I'm kind of like, I have to plan these things. We need to know what we're doing. You know, like everything organized and all that. But somehow with the taxes, he's the one who always wants to get it done faster. Like, you know, that's fine.

D            Yeah. Well, that's cool.

K            I'll let you think that you're in charge.

D            Oh yeah. I'd be so happy to pass off all of that stuff, but unfortunately, I get stuck with a lot of it. Anyway, we had spring break recently. Did you do anything fun?

K            We went just on the quick little trip to… Forest Area. Forest, like a national park area and kind of had a little cabin, stayed there for a few days. To, you know, get away from everything to, as they call it, unplug. 

D            Oh yeah. You know, unplugging is so important. It's too easy when you're at home and you're in your everyday routine. You pick up the phone and… what's going on… and it's like, no, you just, it's so nice just to put it away. Maybe not even have a signal; that's even better.

K            Right.

D            Yeah. That's a good feeling. 

K            It's nice. It was nice. But what about you? Did you go anywhere or…?

D            Nope. I was at home. I had some guests, hanging out here. We were in the pool a little bit. It's a little bit warm, so that was nice. Just relaxed. Yeah. That's always good.

K            That's good. That's good. 

D            Okay. Well, today we have a topic. It's a little bit different for us, I think. We're going to be doing a little bit of nostalgia.

K            Yeah, that's a good vocabulary word there.

D            Yeah. Nostalgia. You know, sometimes as you get older, sometimes you think about, when you were a kid and different things that you did and just what life was like and how different it is, you know? And so we started thinking it'll be fun to talk about our childhood memories.

K            Yes, I agree. I agree.

D            Yeah, so just because we are who we are, I would like to start talking about food memories from our childhood. Oh. What do you think of that? 

K            Yeah. We always have to start with the food. There's always room for food.

D            Always. You know? It wouldn't be us.

K            It would not be. Yeah. Yeah.

D            So what would you say when you were a kid? I mean, obviously it's gonna be very different than when I was a kid because you lived in a completely different place. But did you have like a typical sort of dinner that you would eat maybe regularly with your family?

K            Yeah. So, you know, knowing where I'm from, my culture…

D            Where are you from?

K            Where am I from? You know that very often there was potatoes involved. Definitely. And bread.

D            Starch, carbs. Love 'em! 

K            Oh, absolutely, yes. But meat. 

D            Ah, not so much. 

K            There had to be meat. And yeah, and vegetables. And so I would say like [a] typical dinner, again, my parents, especially my mom, cooked all [the] time, I'm trying to remember like how many times in my life as I was growing up, we actually went out. And I think I have more fingers on one hand.

D            Wow.

K            Yeah. So it's always been, it's always home cooked meals. Sometimes leftovers. So that, of course, that happened too. Sometimes it's just sandwiches for dinner. But because in my culture the big meal is lunch. Right. So usually dinner is kind of a lighter fare, but lunch where you would always have soup. Some sort of a soup, like different types of soup. And then you would have a second course and that would usually involve either potatoes, some sort of a meat, either chicken or beef or whatever. And [a] vegetable. And then the funny thing about that is until I moved to the United States having a fresh vegetable in winter, when it's not in season is usually not the case.

That's why during early fall or summer, we would pickle and can a lot of stuff and marinate and can. 

D            Nice, nice. 

K            So then in winter when there is no fresh vegetables, my parents would open up a jar of pickles or a jar of pickled vegetables or marinated vegetables, some sort of salad that you can and all that.

So that was always a staple, like you always had to have that. But in the summer, it was definitely… we would have fresh vegetables with our lunch or even like with sandwich, sometimes some sort of fresh veggie salad or something like that. And the other interesting thing: When we would have holidays or we would have guests over for a birthday party or whatever, just gathering… visits. You would have, you know, like in the United States, when you say salad, when you serve salad, okay. It's usually lettuce, veggies, other toppings and all that, and different dressing in Ukraine.

When you say salad, think in terms of like potato salad. Right. So it's usually heavier, like you would have vegetable salads, but they usually would have either mayo or sour cream or like oil and vinegar. Depends on the salad, but I feel like it's always been like one of the unique things about Ukrainian cuisine, like the salads are not your typical salads with lettuce.

Like you would have salads that would have meat in it. Some, maybe beans and maybe little potatoes and onions, but then you would have it like with mayonnaise or you would have some chicken and chunks of cheese and peppers and something. Then mayonnaise, or we would use a lot of root vegetables, so like potatoes and beets and carrots, you know, stuff like that.

D            Yeah. So it was more… hearty; it's almost like a meal by itself.

K            you would say. So, but the thing is when we would have like parties. And I remember when I was a kid, like my extended family would visit or friends, you would have these different salads, right? As kind of like a appetizer type thing. And then there would be a main course coming in, which usually would be like either some sort of meat and then either potato, or noodles or some sort of a grain, like a rice or buckwheat or something like that. And then, dessert after that, obviously.

D            Of course, yeah.

K            Yeah, that's the best part.

D            Oh yeah. I like the sound of all that. And especially you said like you get all different salads. Like several types of salads, and you'd just have a little bit of each, right?

K            Yeah. It would always be like, I remember when we would have guests over, it's always family style, so we would just have a table with all of that stuff. And then you just take a little bit and then you pass it around or whatever, you know, so there's, it has always been family style. That's how I grew up. 

D            Yeah. That's good. Oh, well that sounds good.

K            What about you?

D            I wouldn't say that we really had a typical sort of traditional, usual dinner or something like that. My dad was the cook in the family. And he was not just the cook. He loved to cook and it was his passion to make unusual things, at least unusual for us. He had a giant library in the house, like one room full of cookbooks.

K            Oh my gosh.

D            Yeah. For all different kinds of cuisine. I mean, he just loved everything and so he would try all kinds of different stuff. Sometimes when you're a kid, you're just like, oh, slow down there. What are you doing here with all this wild stuff? You know? It's like too much for a kid, you know? And he used to get into these little phases where he would make like kimchi, this Korean salad kind of thing.

Yeah. He made that for a while from scratch. And then he did another thing where he was. sprouting his own bean sprouts. And that went on for a while. And in fact he made a pizza once and he made it from scratch. Nice big, thick crust. which I like and lots of toppings on it.

And he threw some bean sprouts on that pizza. And I was so upset. I was so horrified. I was like, what? What is this? And I remember years later I kind of roasted him a little bit about it. I was like, yeah, remember that time you made a pizza with bean sprouts on it? And he was like, I don't think I did that. I'm like, yeah, you did. 

K            Oh, he was trying to deny his crimes. 

D            His crimes. Yeah, I know. I'm like, trust me, I'm still traumatized.

K            Oh my gosh. Oh, geez. Well, we had a garden too, like a vegetable garden because my parents had a little cabin outside of town, but it had quite a bit of land there. So there was plenty of room for a garden. And the funny thing is. Most of it was potatoes, right? You grow potatoes. 

D            Sounds good. 

K            But then we also had like this spot where we could grow some cucumbers and tomatoes and cabbage and corn and all that. So I remember you always try to get fresh veggies and… but the thing is that because the season was so short for that, right? So you try to load up and eat as much as you can of that. But the other thing is that I don't ever remember when I was a kid not liking fresh vegetables. 

D            Hmm, that's good.

K            When we were kids, sometimes we would have like [a] sandwich and then my mom would chop up some wedges of tomato and some radishes and some cucumbers or peppers and we'd just eat it like crunch… right, munch on it, just fresh. I don't think I've ever met anyone when I was a kid that did not like that. That was just, you just eat that. Right. And we looked forward to it. Ooh. Fresh tomatoes and fresh cucumbers. I cannot get my child to even touch a fresh tomato or a cucumber.

D            Yeah. kids here, they're not really into that. I will say I was, I did like fresh vegetables. I remember I had this weird thing now that you're talking about that, I just remembered when I was a kid, I went through this phase where I would just pull out pieces of lettuce from the fridge and just like suck on the lettuce. So, I… Did you do that? 

K            No, but I have something similar. Well, I used to wake up at night and sneak pickles out of the fridge. Love them. But I have a kind of similar story. Very early on, like before I went went to Kindergarten, right. We lived in this two-story house that my grandpa built with my grandma and my aunt downstairs.

And then our family lived upstairs and we had a kitchen and all that. So every fall there was this big production. My mom and my dad, and then my aunt and her husband, they would buy these huge burlap sacks full of cabbage heads.

D            Oh my gosh.

K            And they would have this huge shredder and they would shred the cabbage and carrots and onions and make sauerkraut, right? But they would put spices, and I remember we had this huge oak barrel in the basement, where we'd keep all that stuff and that cabbage would ferment there, you know, to make sauerkraut. But it was like a big thing, right? it takes a whole day and you know, but... we knew when those, like those burlaps sacks of cabbage were delivered.

And I remember this one year, my brother and my little cousin and I got into that little shed where they kept the cabbage and we ate a whole head of cabbage leaf by leaf. Between three of us. Just like a snack,

D            Like raw? 

K            Yes. Kind of like…

D            Did you get sick to your stomach?

K            No. No. We loved it. I mean, it was three of us eating the whole, right? So I remember we brought the core from the cabbage to our grandma and said, Hey, can you peel this for us and slice it in three so we can share it? 'cause we loved eating the core from the cabbage because it's crunchy. And my, my grandma was like, oh yeah, sure. And then she goes, wait a minute, where did you get this? We're like, well, we found cabbage in the shed.

D            We found it!

K            Yeah. We're like, we found cabbage in the shed, so we ate one of the heads. This is such a vivid memory for me. I don't know, but I thought it was so funny because, our parents were just flabbergasted. Like what did you do? Like you ate a whole head of cabbage, just between three of you? 

D            It sounds a little weird. I gotta say.

K            You know what? But those memories are the best.

D            Yeah. Well that's the other thing, when you're a kid, you'll eat really weird things. Now, you would never think of just munching on a head of raw cabbage, I think, or no – you would?

K            Oh, I would. 

D            Yeah, you would. Okay. Well, never mind then.

K            When I shred cabbage for a salad, I'll be like shredding. Then I'm like, oh, this is good. This is good. Shred some more, then throw some more in my mouth. I guess I just love cabbage. I don’t know.

D            Yeah. I mean, ahh cabbage is okay. I don’t know if I love it that much. But what I did do when I was a kid, though--I remember this and I got this from my grandmother; she did this and I was like, oh, that sounds interesting. And she would take these onions and slice them really thin. Real, real thin. And she would get some white bread. And put some butter on it or mayonnaise, I don't remember which, and layer those onions on there and put some salt and pepper and make a sandwich just out of onions and…

K            We did that too.

D            Did you? 

K            Oh my gosh. We did that too. 

D            I thought nobody did that; looking back, I'm like, that's really weird, but I totally chowed down on that thing.

K            I remember, yes. We would have sometimes, like same thing my mom would do that she would slice onions really like fresh onion, really thin. And then kind of crunch it up with some salt and pepper. And then would take a slice of bread with butter and then put those onions on top, and it was delicious.

D            Oh yeah. Absolutely.

K            Oh, I remember it was so good.

D            I've always loved onions, so yeah, but I thought that was just a weird thing my grandmother did, but that's weird. Well, we've managed to take over a lot of time talking about food, so I think probably we need to move on to another topic. What do you think? 

K            That sounds good.

D            Yeah. Okay, so we covered the food. How about talking about homes? What was your home like when you grew up, like the house? what was the house itself like? 

K            So, like I mentioned, when I was really little, we lived at the house that my grandpa built and we lived on the second floor and we had, I want to say like two large rooms and a very small kitchen, but still it's the second floor, so we would go down to my grandma and play with [our] cousin and, the funny thing about Ukrainian homes, if it's a house… you know how in the United States usually, the fence is for the backyard?

D            Yes.

K            In Ukraine, the fence is for the whole yard, front and back.

D            Okay. Yeah, actually, I know some places have fence in the front as well, but maybe shorter, generally. 

K            This would be the whole thing. Okay. And sometimes when I drive…

D            You're like, neighbors, get out. Stay away.

K            Yeah, pretty much. But sometimes when I drive through [the] Chicago area, like suburbs and all that, and you could tell which one is Ukrainian descent.

D            Really?

K            Because they usually have fenced in yards, from front to back

D            Listen, I don't hate it because I don't want to be bothered. Everybody, leave me alone. I don't want anybody wandering up on my porch. Ringing my bell, trying to sell me something or you know…yeah…whatever. So,

K            but then after I went to kindergarten, my parents…we moved to an apartment actually, and it was more space and we had our own thing. So it had like four rooms and a big kitchen, hallway and all that, but it was on the top floor of the building.

D            Yikes.

K            Actually, it wasn't too bad because we didn't have any neighbors upstairs. 

D            That's good. 

K            So it was kind of nice and you get [a] really cool view from there, you know?

D            Oh yeah, sure.

K            So, what about you? What was your home like?

D            Well, that's the thing, I was preparing for this today and thinking about it. I moved around so much when I was a kid, and of the places that I can remember, and I'm sure there may be more, when I was really, really young. But until I graduated from high school, I lived in seven different houses in three different states. So I don't have like, oh, this was my childhood home. I don't have anything like that. But there were definitely two places that I could talk about that I thought were kind of cool. And one was in Chicago. My parents bought this old bank building. Yes. It was built in 1923. I just had to look this up today too, because I was like, if you search, if you Google "Chicago bank perfection", because there's a clock on there and it's engraved "Perfection". If you search those three words, you will find the h..., not a house. It's a bank. It's literally a bank.

K            Yeah, yeah, yeah.

D            So they bought that and it was so cool. Yeah. I mean, it's this old gray building and like from the times, like I said, 1923, it was built and there's the vault on the bottom and my dad made his little workshop 'cause he was also an antique guy. He did lots of strange things. So he had this antique shop on the bottom, and then on the upper level we made our living space and it was all just one. Like, we would call it a loft now, but it was an open space and it was just huge. And back in those days, you'd only have one telephone for the house. And the telephone was all the way in the front. And if you were in the kitchen, which was the opposite side, the phone would ring and you would start running and maybe make it in time before they hung up. Yeah, it was crazy, but it was a cool, did you see...?

K            Yep, I found it. I had to Google it, I had to look it up. Yeah. Yeah. My gosh. That's so cool. 

D            It was really cool. Yeah, it was a lot of fun you know, to be able to say, oh yeah, I lived in a bank. I mean, it sounds ridiculous. So that was one place that I lived, and I didn't actually live here, but it was so much fun. I have to talk about it. In the summers I would spend with my grandparents in Tennessee, in Memphis. They had a big house. I guess at one point it was, again, we have this thing with levels here. The bottom level was where they lived. And then there were these stairs that would go up internally. And there were two separate units, like they were old tiny apartments. So when I would come to visit, I would get to stay in one of the apartments. And it was all decked out in 1950s, 1960s decor. They never changed it.

K            That's so cool. 

D            You know, and there was this black and white TV they had. And you would turn it on and there was like this little glowy lamp thing that would go around the perimeter of the tv. Yeah. And that would come on first and it would take some time for it to turn on. But I was a kid and I was like, this is my apartment. And I had a kitchen, I had a bathroom, and my friend would come over and we would just be like, oh yes, welcome to my apartment. You know? And it was just a lot of fun.

K            Oh, that's fun. That sounds like a lot of fun. Oh my gosh. Yeah. That's really neat. You know, I never realized, like we've known each other for so long, but I never realized that you've moved so much when you were a child. 

D            Oh my gosh. That was up until, you know, high school. Right? So, I don't even want to count how many places I've lived since then. But yeah, that was crazy when I think about how many places I've lived.

K            Oh. And that's just so opposite from me because we moved from my grandparents' house to [an] apartment, but it was still in the same town. You just stayed in the same place. you didn't move around and all that, but yeah. Oh my gosh. 

D            My dad was always like kind of looking for something else, something interesting.

And he would get bored easily, I think. And so he was like, oh, let's move over here. Okay. And it was just normal for me, so yeah.

K            Yeah, you get used to it.

D            Yeah. Okay. So let's talk a little bit about school memories then. 

K            Sounds good. 

D            Yeah. Since, I mean, we could talk about this for days, I feel like, so… 

K            I know

D            I guess we'll stick to, uh, food, home, and school this time around.

K            Alright. Alright. Sounds good.

D            So school memories, what would you say was your favorite and least favorite class? Or subject in school? 

K            Yeah. So this is a tough one because. I told you before, I was a nerd, 

D            Same.

K            so I actually liked school. I liked school and I think part of it wasn't even just liking the school itself and the subject and learning and all that, but I had a really good class. I had really good friends and I think I had really good teachers. 

D            Oh, that's good. 

K            So that helped. I feel like I always had good teachers. I mean, there were some, you know…

D            There's always a few.

K            Yeah. But overall, I feel like I had really good teachers. But I would say, and you're gonna laugh at me, actually, English was my favorite subject.

D            Okay. That makes sense. Same.

K            I mean, for me, English was different than for you, obviously. 

D            Yeah, exactly.

K            But I had a really fun teacher. 

D            That really helps. 

K            And she was kind of eccentric, but she wore so much makeup. It was ridiculous. But she was so much fun and she had this really funny laugh, but she made things fun, you know? And that's when I realized that learning a language actually wasn't that difficult for me. So I was like, okay, cool. This is… you know, I can do this. But yeah, that was my favorite. But also, I liked history. I liked math. I liked Ukrainian language and literature. I loved geography. I remember we had a very cool teacher who when she was younger, before she actually started teaching at our school, went on a lot of expeditions.

D            Oh, that's cool.

K            Like she traveled and did a lot of stuff. I remember when she told us about this first time when she tried snake meat.

D            Steak meat? 

K            Snake. 

D            Oh, snake. Ugh.

K            Yeah. She was somewhere in one of the African countries on some sort of expedition. And she said, we stopped at this place and they gave us soup. And she said it was delicious. It was really good. And the meat was in there, but they wouldn't tell her. She's like, I kept asking them, what kind of meat is this? And they wouldn't tell her until she…

D            That's your first clue that it's gone really wrong.

K            When she walked out, she saw snake skins are drying out, kind of in the sun. 

D            Oh God. I would've died. I would've died.

K            Why do you think I'm telling you this story?

D            Oh, torturing me here. That's awful.

K            Yeah, she was such a fun teacher because she always had stories for us…

D            Yeah that’s fun.

K            …you know about her travels and expeditions. So like I said, I was a nerd.

D            So you didn't have a least favorite class?

K            I don't think so.

D            Good for you.

K            Yeah, I don't think so. What about you?

D            Guess what my, I was gonna say, guess what my least favorite subject was? See if you can guess.

K            Was it P.E.?

D            Yes! For those that don't know, that's gym class, physical education. Yeah. I give that vibe, don't I?

K            That's so funny.

D            No, but actually it's not like I didn't want to move my body. That wasn't like… I was so lazy. I didn't want to move. No, it's not that. What was bad for me…You have to be…you know… get a dodge ball or basketball or softball. They throw you on some team to do something. They would never explain the rules. They just assume that you knew. But I'm a nerd. What do I know about softball rules? I have no idea. So I'm just standing around going, well, what do I do? So, of course other kids, they get so competitive and they get so upset. 

K            Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

D            You know, and because I was terrible at that, they didn't want anything to do with me on their team. So I very quickly learned how to get out of P.E. Yes. So, at least by the time I got to high school anyway. I was like, I gotta figure this thing out. And so when I moved to this one school here in Mobile, and I was like, okay, is there anything I can take? I mean, I'll take another science class, what can I do? Uh, no, no, no. This was another…the first one was at another school and how I got out of P.E. then was joining the band. Yeah. So then the next year, I was here in Mobile and I needed to get out of P.E. and they offered me the band option. But here's the thing, I was just as bad at band as I was at P.E. so I was like, uh, you got something else? Oh my gosh. Yeah. And they did. They put me in like this business kind of class. And I was like, fabulous!

K            Oh my gosh. So the funny thing is I remember we all wanted to go to P.E. class, especially junior high to high school. During that period, all the girls wanted to go to P.E. class because we had a really cute teacher. He was young and fun, and he would let girls get away with murder, you know, just do whatever. But we were all just, oh. But he's so cute. Oh my gosh. So, yeah, we all loved P.E. class at that time.

D            I tell you what, a cute teacher would not have have…

K            …wouldn’t have done it for you

D            Um, just, no, not, not enough. 

K            Oh my gosh. That is so funny.

D            Oh my gosh. Well, it is officially the fastest a half hour has gone by for me. This was a lot of fun talking about this. I do want to do a couple quick rapid-fire questions to wrap this up. If you don't mind.

K            Go for it. 

D            Let's see if you can think of something quick to finish the sentence. If not, that's okay. So, rapid fire question: finish the sentence. “Something kids have today that I wish I had growing up would be…”

K            I'll have to say like a smartphone.

D            I know! As much as I hate to say it, it's true. Like can you imagine like all those long car trips or sitting around at some relative's house and you're bored out of your mind, and if you had a smartphone or an iPad?

K            Yeah. As much as I gripe about nowadays, kids on their smartphones all the time, I was like, oh, I wish I had that.

D            I know, man, but the funny thing is though, talking about going to like relative's house or something like that, where it's super boring adults talking about adult things, you know? And my mind would just go and I would just start thinking and daydreaming. And I think being bored is good in some way. Oh, because you start getting a little creative, you know? 

K            Yes. Yeah. I think it's actually…

D            So there's something to say for that. 

K            It's proven that being bored is actually good for you. Yeah. It's good for your mind.

D            Okay. “[The] best thing about being a kid was …”

K            Not have to worry about anything, not have to pay bills, not have to worry about work.

D            Right? You don't care about the cost of things. You're like, ah.

K            You know what? Well, you know what else? The best thing about being a kid, you didn't have to worry about what to cook for dinner every night. 

D            Oh my gosh. So, right. It would just magically appear on the table. Oh, that was a beautiful thing. Unless it was the bean sprout pizza. And I'd be like, let me get in there and take care of this. I can do better than this.

K            Oh my gosh. Oh yeah. 

D            Yeah. I would say summer vacation. Oh my gosh, that was wonderful. Going to spend the summers with my grandparents was amazing. Okay. Quickly, of course, now: “The worst thing about being a kid was…” What would you say?

K            Worst thing about being a kid. You know what? Having to listen to your parents not being able to do things you want to do because they're like, no, you gotta be home by this time, or no, you're not going there. So I would say, yeah.

D            A lot of, no, no nos.

K            A lot of nos. Yeah. And my parents were pretty strict, so there was a lot of nos.

D            Yeah, same. And the other thing I'll have to add to that is: They had this ridiculous bedtime thing. They wanted me to go to bed at some weird time. It was like 9:30, like in the middle of a good show. You know, shows go from nine to 10, so I could watch half of the show and then I had to go to bed. And if you know me, and I know you do, I am a night owl. Yes. And I always have been. So at 9:30, I was like, what now what? And I would just flop around in the bed. Oh, it was brutal.

K            And you couldn't even go in bed and read a good book because the lights were supposed to be out.

D            Exactly. Well you know, at one point, I remember I took a flashlight under the blankets and I was reading, 'cause, you know, and I got busted and I got in so much trouble and I'm like, I am literally just reading to try to go to sleep. Come on guys. Take it easy.

K            Well, you know what? I remember as we were getting a little older, like maybe high school, I remember we got to the point where my parents would go to bed and my brother and I could stay up and watch TV because they were like, we're tired. We're going to bed. You're on your own. So I was like, yes! 

D            Sounds great. Awesome.

K            Yeah, it was fun. 

D            Oh, wow. Well, this was a great conversation. A lot of fun.

K            Yes. I feel like you're right. We can talk for hours about all this.

D            We really could. Yeah. But, but anyway, I, I hope y'all found this interesting. And you know what, I haven't said this in a while. But there is a little link, the, uh, platform where it asks you something about join the conversation, you know, let us know about a funny childhood memory or something. We'd love to hear it.

K            Yeah. Yes. Yeah, that would be nice.

D            We need some good laughs these days. Uh, the world being what it is. 

A good laugh is, is really great. So share with us some fun story that you have for us. But until next time, here's to good coffee, good vibes, and great conversations. 

K            Cheers. 

D            Cheers.