Episode 22: Phrasal Verbs with COME

In this episode, our conversation revolves around various phrasal verbs that include the verb "come" but you'll also hear about lots of other phrasal verbs and expressions! Be sure to grab the show notes for even more content!

Transcript

D          Welcome to Coffee and Conversation for ESL Listening. I'm Donielle.

 K          And I'm Khrystyna, so grab a cup and join the conversation.

 D          Hello, hello, how are you?

 K          I'm doing well, how are you? It's been a while.

 D          It has and I am better now, that's for sure. We were supposed to record some time ago, but I went on a cruise and as per the usual for me, I took a vacation and I got sick.

 K          You… it just seems to me like… you're right. It's the usual, every time you go on vacation, you come back and you get sick. And I don't know if it's related to the vacation or is it just, I don't know, your body adjusting back.

 D          I don't know. My body hates me. I have no idea. It's something stupid that happens. But anyway…

 K          I don't think so. Nah. But you're feeling better, right?

 D          I'm better and you're good. So we're here and everything's…we're getting ready for Christmas soon. 

 K          Oh yes.

 D          So yeah, I mean, the year has just flown by and here we are.

 K          I know, I can't believe that we're like a couple of weeks away from 2024.

 D          I know, it's amazing how quickly this has gone.

 K          Yeah, pretty fast.

 D          But yeah, so this will probably be…well, let's see. I don't know when this is gonna get released [side note: I could have also said: I don’t know when this is going to come out], hopefully soon. I hope it's before the end of the year. Yes, it takes a little while to get polished up and get online, but we will do our best. So anyway, if it's still 2023, yay. Okay, so today we have another topic, kind of similar…we did something like this before. We talked about phrasal verbs, and it was kind of an interesting topic, I think, because phrasal verbs, oh my gosh, they're so useful. I think they're really difficult. So sometimes being able to talk about them in a little more detailed way, I think, is really helpful.

 K          I agree, I mean and there's just so many of them out there and if you don't know what the combination of the verb is that sometimes that …it can you can lead you into some awkward situations or conversations.

 D          Yeah, that's true. And even, you know, um, well, I'll get into that in a minute, but I was doing some research because we had, we picked out, by the way, we picked out the verb come, so we're going to be talking about phrasal verbs with the verb come. And I was doing a little bit of research and as usual, I kind of found my way down a rabbit hole because I thought, you know, oh, like maybe 10 or something with come, right? I'm like, oh, this won't take long. Well, no, no, no. And if y’all don't know, when you go down a rabbit hole, it's like you start doing some minor small thing and it leads you to another place, to another place. And the next thing you know, hours have gone by and you're like, oh my gosh, what did I do?

 K          I was just gonna say, I was like, I want to explain to our listeners what a rabbit hole is because, you know, just so they don't think that you literally went out in the field somewhere and found a rabbit hole and got into it. Crazy. 

 D          Don't put much past me, you never know. [said as a joke because my friends all know that I love animals and they could picture me hanging out with rabbits]

 K          That's true. You have done some crazy things about animals that usually people don't do.

 D          Yeah. Yeah, but no, this rabbit hole is just, you know, you find yourself trying to look for one small thing and next thing you know, you've gone from link to link to link to link or whatever it is that you're doing and you find you've just spent much too long on the topic. And that's what I did. I was going down this rabbit hole looking for these verbs with come and I was noticing that there were some pages that I found that were clearly from Britain, from like British phrasal verbs. And the thing is, you know, much of our vocabulary obviously is very similar from US to UK or other places like that. But there are definitely some differences and phrasal verbs are one of those that can be a little bit different. And I saw a couple that were a little bit um, you know, uh, a little bit suggestive. Um, and they were like normal sounding to me. I was like, oh my goodness, they say that for that over there. So even when you speak the language, you can get yourself in trouble.

 K          That's true. Well, I can't wait to hear what you found there.

 D          Yes. So I, I just came up with… oh, here we go. I started off with that. Well, let's start there, right? 

 K          Ah, here we go!

 D          Oh, Hey, yeah. I came up with a list of….20, but we're not going to talk all about those. No, no, no. I'm just going to kind of pick and choose. Come up with, I know that we have talked about this in previous episodes and it's been on some of the show notes. By the way, don't forget to get the show notes because you'll get lots more info. But yeah, come up with means to think of or to create, usually get an idea for something and we use it a lot.

 K          Yes, I feel like it's one of the most common ones to use. 

 D          It really is. Right now, I said it without even thinking, right? You know, I came up with a list. Yeah. It means I sat down, I thought about it, I created, I generated a list. So basically that.

 K          Yep. Yeah. That's… that's a good one. It's a… it's a really common one. Come up with something. I think in fact, we might have used it earlier today when we were texting each other. 

 D          Yes, yeah, that's right, you did. That's so funny. It's hard to avoid some of them. They're just so part of your everyday conversation that you kind of forget that it's not something that someone who's learning the language might not know.

 K          Right. And come up with… I feel like it's more of informal language too. Usually you won't see that in some sort of a formal, I don't know, formal letters or formal use of language usually come up with it's more of a… informal kind of casual.

 D          Yeah, in speaking for sure. Always in speaking. Definitely. We use it all the time. Yeah, so you know, like what kinds of things we come up with, we come up with ideas, come up with a name for your pet. I need to come up with a good name. I need to come up with a theme for the party, you know, that kind of thing. 

 K          A recipe, maybe a new dish or something like that

 D          …come up with new recipe, come up with a menu for a dinner, sure. So you're going to be doing some cooking soon, aren't you?

 K          I am since Christmas is coming, for me it involves a lot of cooking.

 D          Yeah, so have you come up with your menu?

 K          Um, well, I am a planner. 

 D          You are.

 K          So, um, my husband and I actually, because we came up with a menu for the next week, because my mother-in-law is coming and staying with us for a week. So I told him, I said, I have such a busy week at work and all that. I need to have a plan for the week, what I'm cooking. So we came up with a menu for a whole week, including Christmas dinner. Yeah.

 D          Oh, good for you. I mean, I barely know from day to day when I'm going to eat for dinner.

 K          Well, usually that's the case, even though I am a planner, but, um, when it comes to dinner, I feel like, you know, half of the conversations with people when you are adult is what are we having for dinner?

 D          Yeah. You know, I say to my husband all the time, I'm like, I am so tired of having to come up with something for dinner. I'm tired of thinking about it. I'm tired of, you know, ugh, I've got to cook something. I just, I don't even want to eat.

 K          Yeah, well, but the time you figure it out, you're like, oh gosh. But the thing is that I know some people who could eat the same thing a few days in a row, right? I am not one of those people. 

 D          No?

 K          No, I mean, I can have something maybe two days in a row, but then I get tired of it and I need to come up with something else.

 D          Yeah. I think it depends what it is for me. And sometimes it's just like if I overcook, you know, we're getting off topic here, but who cares. Sorry. We may only get through like five of these. I don't know. But sometimes I overcook and I've got a whole bunch of leftovers and you know, I'm not about to throw them away. So, sometimes, you know, day three and I'm like, okay, one more push through these leftovers.

 K          Or you know, you would think that, you know, like, I have a small family, you have a small family, right. So you would think by now, I would learn how to cook for just three people. 

 D          I know. Right? I don't know. I can't do it either. I can't. I mean...

 K          Nope. No, I feel like this for Thanksgiving, I made enough mashed potatoes to feed the whole neighborhood. I was eating mashed potatoes for a week. I was like, I love mashed potatoes. But by the end of that week, I was like, I think I need a break from mashed potatoes for a while now.

 D          Probably so. Yeah, see, that's the thing. That's one great thing about leftovers is that, okay, I will probably take as much time to cook for three days’ worth of food as just for one meal. And as much as I don't wanna have to think about it every day, it's great to have your meal plan the next day. But then you get tired.

 K          Leftovers are wonderful and sometimes they taste even better than the fresh cooked one. So I'll take that. 

 D          That's true. Yeah, it depends on what it is. 

 K          Ok, let’s rein it back in.

 D          Well, we've gone off topic here. Let's rein it back in. Okay, so we've got come up with, we can scratch that off the list. Okay. Another one that we've talked about, I know before, so I'm gonna get that out of the way, is come across. This is a really good one. And we use that when we talk about...finding something, discovering something without looking for it. You just found it by chance. So you'll say things like, oh I came across a really good article, you know, you should read it or something like that.

 K          That's true. That's true. Um, that usually happens to me, like when I'm at the bookstore, I was like, oh, I came across this book. Never heard of it, but I looked at it and yeah, this sounds interesting or yeah. I mean, for me, it's a lot of times it's, uh, shopping for stuff. So I'll be like, Oh, I came across this beautiful chair. I mean, I couldn’t not buy it.

 D          It just jumped into my shopping cart. I don't know. 

 K          Oh, absolutely!

 D          That's sounds like something your kid would say. I don't know how it got there. It just jumped in.

 K          Oh, my son came the other day…came to me. He was like, you know, I was looking for the he went into a rabbit hole just like you. He was looking for this toy. And then he realized that he came across this other toy that reminded him that he had this other toy that he needed to go look for. And then he saw something else or came across something else. So it like he went into the rabbit hole completely with all the toy stuff is just...

 D          Oh my goodness

 K          it's exhausting. 

 D          I bet. yeah. It happens to the best of us, right? 

 K          Yeah. So it's kind of unintentionally finding something.

 D          Exactly, unintentionally. And I have got a really good example of this. So I have a student in particular, hey Elizabeth, if you're out there, she and I have this weird kind of psychic connection. And it's really funny because sometimes, you know, we'll meet and she'll ask me a question or bring up a topic that I happened to be talking about earlier in the day. And it could be some random thing like, why would you bring that up? Oh, bring up is another phrasal verb, means to mention. Why would you mention, bring up this topic just out of the blue, unexpected… all these expressions here. And it just so happened that I was talking about it. So we do that. And the other thing that happens is a lot of times we'll meet and she'll say, she'll ask me a question about a particular word, not a very common word necessarily. And so we'll go into this lengthy discussion about what the word means and whatever, what have you. And then we get off our call, we do Skype, we get off our call, I'll pick up my phone and go scrolling as you do. Right? And immediately I'll see that word in a post. 

 K          Wow!

 D          It's really weird. And so many times I have taken a screenshot of that and sent it to her. I'm like, look at this. So yeah, that's a perfect example that I just came across the same word that we were just talking about.

 K          You know, I was just gonna say as many expressions as we're using in this episode, there will be a lot of show notes… seems like a lot.

 D          Oh my goodness, I know, I better stop. I can get out of control sometimes. I can get carried away. 

 K          Here you go. Here's another one 

 D          I know!

 K          You're just doing this to yourself. You just can't help yourself. Can you?

 D          I am, I know, I know, I'll stop. Okay. 

 K          Alright, what else you got there?

 D          Well, I think we've covered that one. Um, let's see. Oh, so we started talking about my getting the flu, right? So come down with is a really good one. 

 K          Oh, that is a good one.

 D          Yeah. And so appropriate. How many times I can say that I came down with the flu. I came down with a cold. It's…you could certainly say I got a cold or I had a cold, but for some reason, very often we say I came down with a cold. Yeah.

 K          Yes, yeah. You know what? And the thing is, it is so easy to confuse. You have to make sure you use it, come down with something. Because if you just say, come down somewhere, then it's a different, a whole different meaning there. Right? But came down with, it took me a while to understand that one when I was learning English. To tell the truth.

 D          I can imagine, and I think in particular, those phrasal verbs that contain with are really weird. Come up with, put up with, they sound really weird because in the structure of the sentence, it's like if you look at it, it looks really weird.

 K          Yeah, kind of doesn't make sense. It was like when you look at just words, but you know, um, to kind of stem from the come down with when you're talking about come coming down, right. Or come down somewhere. I have a funny story. It took me…so when I was talking to my family here, like my husband's family or friends, and they were like, “Oh, we'll just come down next weekend”, or “Why don't you come up and see us”, and it took me the longest time to figure out why some people say come down and some people say come up or it depends on like somebody will say come up. And I was like, what, why? Like I, I'm not going up the mountain. I'm not…why? And then, oh my gosh, it was like, it was the weirdest thing. I was like, well, then I'll say, oh, okay, we will come down to Chicago. And people look at me like, well, no, you would go up to Chicago. And I'm like, what the heck? So then I realized it's a map thing.

 D          Mm-hmm. Yeah.

 K          It's a location, right? North, south. So if you're going north, you go up somewhere. If you're coming south, you're going down or you're coming down to somebody. So I was like, oh gosh, seriously, it took me a few years to figure this out. 

 D          Oh, that's so funny. I never really thought about that, but yeah, I guess it does sound a little bit weird. I'll be coming up the mountain.

 K          I know it's like, why don't you come up to us? And I'm like, well, you live like a couple hours away. You're not like up the mountain somewhere, right? 

 D          Or upstairs

 K          Or upstairs. I was like, why do I need to come up to you? But because you live a little bit north of here, that means I have to come up. Or they were like, we'll come down to you. I'm like, well, we're not down. Like I don't live by the sea somewhere and you're on a cliff. But then I was like, oh, I guess we're just a little bit south.

 D          That's funny. The things that you don't even think about when it's so natural to you. So that I'm glad you brought that... I'm glad you brought that up. Oh my gosh, here we go. We got a phrasal verb palooza going on today.

 K          Hey, here you go, here's another one! or the Palooza one, you make sure you include that in show notes.

 D          Yeah. You know, I don't know, but I feel like... I feel like that is in one of the previous show notes before, or I don't know, I've done it for something. Who knows what? My brain can't handle all of this. But going back to the coming down with, I'm staying that same kind of topic, I don't know that I say come down with a cold all the time. I think I just say I got a cold. But the one thing we definitely do say all the time is, you know that time when you feel it's just starting, you're like, it's not really here yet. But I know it's coming, right? And so we'll say, we'll definitely say things like I'm coming down with a cold or I feel a cold coming on. Sometimes we say that. Yeah. So definitely like in the process, we do, we do use that phrase.

 K          Yeah, because I noticed that people don't usually… some people do, but don't usually say that I am getting sick. They say I'm coming down with something. Or like coming down with the cold or… Yeah, yeah, that's true.

 D          Yeah. And in fact, they do say quite often, I'm coming down with something because sometimes you don't even know what it is. You're like, I'm getting something. I don't know what it is, but…

 K          Yeah, could be cold, could be flu, could be some virus, could be who knows what.

 D          Nowadays, it feels like there are just a million viruses just swirling around. I don't know. 

 K          I know...

 D          So moving along. Okay. Here's another interesting one. To come around. 

 K          Oh, that's a good one.

 D          Now, it actually has many different meanings. I'm not going to talk about every single one of them because, you know, it'll definitely be a rabbit hole we'll never get out of. But the one that I really liked was to change your opinion or viewpoint on something. And that especially we use that when someone's upset or they don't want to do something, but you're like, okay, just give him time. He'll come around. Kind of like, he'll come around to my way of thinking. Just give it time.

 K          This is a tough one because when you think about coming around, you always think literally somebody is coming around somewhere, something, right. But in this case, you're right. It's changing your mind. It's agreeing with something, somebody, or maybe, you know, so that, that is a, that is a tricky one to be able to use.

 D          It really is. It's, it's one of those that you see the words and there's no connection to the actual meaning. You're like, you'd never be able to figure that out. So yeah, let's get some examples here. So, um, I'm sure… [the idea of] husbands comes to my mind, you know, for things like that. It's like when you want to do something, um, or maybe he's mad about something and you're, you know, like maybe you want to go on a trip and he's like, no, I don't want to go there. I don't want to go there, but you really want to go. And you're like, ah, just give him some time. He'll come around. It means I'll get him warmed up and he'll come over to my way of thinking kind of thing.

 K          Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Did you ever have to have your husband come around…on some decisions?

 D          Um, yeah, I'm sure. Well, Oh, I got one. So when we had, you know, the first cat Lucy, and it was, I think we had her about six months and I was like, oh, she's lonely. She needs a friend. Well, spoiler alert. I was wrong. She did not need, nor did she want a friend. Anyway, she's got one like it or not. Um, but anyway, my husband was like, nah, I don't know, but we don't need another cat. And I was like, he'll come around and he sure did because boy, he loves that cat.

 K          I think in my case it was the opposite and it was with the dog, Junie B. When we got Junie B. I would be like, oh my gosh, what are you doing? What do you mean we're getting a dog? And he's like, I'm pretty sure you'll come around and decide that we do need a dog.

 D          Yeah, I'm sure you did.

 K          Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh, absolutely. Well, now it's the opposite too, because Elijah and I… I think we want another pup, but my husband is still having a hard time figuring out if we should or not. But both, we both think that he will come around soon.

 D          I’m sure. Well, we really got a lot of mileage out of that one --that [phrase] come around. Hopefully that's clear. Hopefully that made sense. Did you have another meaning in mind when I said come around? Because like I said, there are different [ones].

 K          Well, it's, it's more of a literal meaning, right? When somebody said, well, there is a song, “She’ll Be Coming Around the Mountain” Right. So that's a literal meaning that you come around the corner.

 D          Yeah, right… come around the corner, sure.

 K          Right? So right around the corner when you say like, Oh, that store is just right around the corner. So, but that's a literal meaning of, um, around the corner, but, or coming around the corner. Um, but no, that I think that's, that's all I had in mind for now.

 D          Okay. Yeah, there are a couple more, but it's too many. Um, okay. Here's another one. Um, ooh, boy. It's amazing how we've gone through so much time and so few phrasal verbs. Because we've been very chatty today, but that's okay. Um,

 K          It's all those expressions and phrasal verbs you're using here.

 D          Yeah, I know. Crazy. Okay, so I've got another one. This is good. I like this one. Come down. And again, this could be a literal thing, like you come down the stairs, but we have, and this is really, really common. We say that all the time, especially when it comes to things like prices and temperatures. We often say down and up and say things like go up, come down, that kind of stuff like that. So come down is to fall or decrease. And that could be a temperature. The temperature really came down fast, or prices for sure. 

 K          Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, sometimes. And I feel like recently, it hasn't been happening much with prices. Prices are doing the opposite, which I don't want to use that now because we'll have another expression to explain.

 D          That's okay. I was going to contrast that anyway. Yeah, I was going to say more likely prices are going up. So coming down, going up.

 K          Going up. Yeah. Which is interesting too. You don't say coming up. You say going up, but, and you don't say going down. You say coming down. So that's another crazy, beautiful thing about English. Ha ha.

 D          Yeah, it's weird, right? Yeah. I know. Oh, and talking about that, but can even be more confusing, is quite often, especially if we're talking about the price of something, we don't even have to say the price of X is going up. We just say X is going up. For example, gas is going up, or gas is up. Yeah, gas is a big one, right? Yeah.

 K          Yeah. Recently, it's been eggs, right? Eggs are going up. Everybody going crazy about eggs. Yeah.

 D          Yeah, that was a funny one. It’s like the chickens are on strike.

 K          But not much in terms of prices, not much is coming down recently, unfortunately.

 D          No, no, sadly, yeah. But there's that. So, yeah. Okay, I don't wanna do that one. Oh, this one I do wanna do and I think that'll probably have to be it for today cause it's getting to be time.

 K          Coming up on time. Oh, we're coming up on time in here.

 D          Oh, we're coming up on time. Yes, we sure are. Ooh, ooh. Ha, ha, ha.

 K          It means we're getting closer to our time [ending]. It's coming up on time. Oh gosh, you see, it's just so hard to not use them because they're everywhere. Oh, okay. So which one?

 D          They really are. Yeah. Okay. Oh, I oh, there were two more I wanted to do. Darn it. 

 K          Well, let's do two more, but we have to be quick.

 D          Okay. So come out. This is a really important one, because we talk about this all the time. When we say something is released like a movie, or there's a new movie coming out, can't wait to see it. Or maybe a new TV series or a product.

 K          Yes.

 D          And sometimes we'll say like if we talk about the company and they're gonna have a new product, we'll say something like the company whatever is coming out with something. So like Apple is coming out with a new iPhone.

 K          Yes. Yeah, I was just going to make that example, but you already beat me to it. Yeah, that is a very common phrasal verb there. With the coming out. Yeah, like the movie is coming out a new maybe like a new brand is coming out with a new product or coming out. Yeah, yeah, you're right.

 D          Yeah. So you can kind of think of it as being, um, uh, a synonym for released something that's released a product, a show, a movie, you know, something like that. We use that all the time.

 K          And it has to be something new, like usually. Yeah. That's a good one. Okay.

 D          Oh darn, was it one more that I wanted? Two more, okay, we're doing good. 

 K          We can do it, we can do it. 

 D          Okay, come over, come over. 

 K          Oh!

 D          This is a really, really good one because, well, I live way, way far from you now, so this wouldn't work, but if I lived in the same town, I might say to you, hey, Khrystyna, come over for coffee.

 K          Yes.

 D          Do you want to come over this week for dinner? And you notice I don't even have to say “to my house”. I just say come over. And it's understood within that phrasal verb you're talking about to someone's house. And it's weird because it feels like if I say I'm going to go to your house, I should say I'm going to go over to your house. But still I would say I'm gonna come over to your house tomorrow night. I'm gonna come over to your house; you're gonna come over to my house.

 K          Yep, yep.

 D          We kind of do it both ways on that one.

 K          Yeah, it I mean, it's a good one too, because it is quite popular, you know, just come over. What about you know, it's kind of stems from this one when people say, Oh, just come on over.

 D          Oh yeah, when you put that “on” in there, yeah, come on over. That adds a little bit of like more friendliness, like yeah, more enthusiasm that they're coming over.

 K          And sometimes it's not even necessarily going to somebody's house. Sometimes it could be, you know, let's say you're at work and, um, somebody is knocking on your door and you're like, Oh, come on over. Means come inside my office or the room or something like that.

 D          Yeah, but that adding that on adds a little more, um, like enthusiasm or like more welcoming. And as you were saying that I was thinking, do you ever watch The Price Is Right? [television game show] And what do they say? It's whoever, you know, Khrystyna, whatever, “Come on down” 

 K          Yes!

 D          They don't just say, come down to the, you know, row they say, come on down.

 K          Come on down even though they're on the stage so they're up but they will say come on down

 D          Yeah, well… now the stage is different. So like the audience and the place where they stand to bid on the products or whatever, it's all one level. And even the stage where, um, they play the games. Yeah. It's really weird. It’s all on one level.

 K          Have you ever been to it?

 D          No, but I want to go. Yeah.

 K          You sound so familiar with it. Like you've been there before, but I mean, you haven't. So obviously you paid, you paid more attention to it than I did when we watched it.

 D          Yeah, well, it's just because it's new this year. And I noticed, I was like, oh, that's really cool. Because you know what, they used to have to walk up these stairs to get to the stage. And sometimes, you know, if they were a little bit older, if they had some problem, they would get a little bit, you know, shaky on their feet. So now it's really nice. They just walk without….

 K          Cause the same, okay. So that makes sense now, when they say come on down.

 D          Yeah, come on down. Yeah, but they've always said that. So yeah, it's just that on is like, you know, more of a like friendly thing.

 K          Well, that brings me to another thing. And do we have a second? I know I'm sorry, rabbit hole is definitely, but when people say, come on.

 D          Oh no, rabbit hole!

 K          That is a very popular thing to use. And sometimes it's just, it's not even like a phrasal verb or it's just like an expression of, oh, come on.

 D          Yeah. It's like disbelief or sometimes annoyance. You know, like I'm sure if you're, if you're kid or your husband, they're doing something and like, come on, like get it together. Stop.

 K          Yeah, like when my kid leaves Legos all over the floor and I walk into the room and almost stab myself, my feet, then I'll be like, come on, man.

 D          Mm-hmm. Or it could be encouragement. Come on, let's go, let's do it, yay. Yeah.

 K          Yeah, that's true. That's true. Yeah. When you try to get somebody moving, come on, come on. We can go in down this rabbit hole. Yeah, we could be here all night.

 D          You see what I mean? Yeah, you see what I mean? Okay, one more really important one…

 K     Alright, one last one.

 D          …we’ve got to say is come up. And this is super important. We use this all the time. If you make a plan with someone and then something happens at work or, you know, you've got to do something and you're not able to make it to the plan that you had, you'll have to call or text and say, Oh, I'm sorry. Something came up. Something happened that is preventing me to, from doing what I, you know, what I had planned to do, or we'll say things like if something comes up, let me know. Like if there's a problem and you can't make it.

 K          Yeah, something happens. And you have to be careful not to confuse it with come up with.

 D          Yeah, completely different.

 K          Yeah, because those they're so close and the just that one, you know, word makes it such a difference, but yeah, that's a good one too. And again, a lot of people use it, you know, something came up or.

 D          I use it all the time. And you know, I find myself like, if I have to send a note or something to my students, and maybe I think that they're at a level that they don't know that phrase, I sit there and I think to myself, how am I gonna rephrase this? Because it's just so, you know… and I feel like it's so long if I have to rephrase it. I have to say something like, I had a problem and I have to take my husband to the doctor…or you have to explain this long lengthy thing. Whereas with this phrase, come up, it just takes care of everything. Something came up and you don't have to explain, you don't have to go into details, easy peasy.

 K          Because if you just say something happened, it doesn't have the same effect as saying something came up. Because if you say, well, you know this thing happened or something happened, and the first thing people would wanna do, well, what happened? But if you say…

 D          Yeah, they’ll think something serious.

 K          …right, but if you say something came up, people don't usually tend to ask, well, what came up? It's just like, okay, well, you know.

 D          Yeah. That's a really good point because that's the difference between a conflict, you know, with my plan versus like some kind of an emergency or a problem. Really good point.

 K          Right, right. Hmm, all right, all right.

 D          Well, well, I think that's about all we can handle today. We may be back with more of these, who knows. But if you like the phrasal verbs, I'd love to hear from y'all. And let us know if you're enjoying these, because there's a whole lot more. 

 K          I know!

 D          We could do this for days. 

 K          Yes, we can. They’re fun though.

 D          Yeah, it's a lot of fun. Alright, well until next time, here's to good coffee, good vibes, and great conversations. Cheers!

 K          Cheers.